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this is something that hillary clinton herself warned about a few days ago. by not stepping in, everyone agrees that say sad is going to go but we have not stepped in to shape the opposition and not only a viable force but a force that is valuable instead of al-qaeda linked. >> chris: but we don't know that necessarily they would topple assad or al-qaeda still wouldn't have a big role, but it raises the question. here you have panetta, dempsey, clinton, petraeus the entire national security team saying arm the rebels and the white house said no, why do you think not? >> and saudi arabia, britain, france and qatar they understood the importance. i think the president does not like to intervene in these kinds of things. i think also during an election he understood that the public was war weary and didn't want to take that chance. i think this is going to be a big mistake in retrospect. as nina said you've got 800,000 people displaced 60,000 that are dead. syria is linchpin in the middle east and it could spark a regional war. if assad fell and we were able to
this is something that hillary clinton herself warned about a few days ago. by not stepping in, everyone agrees that say sad is going to go but we have not stepped in to shape the opposition and not only a viable force but a force that is valuable instead of al-qaeda linked. >> chris: but we don't know that necessarily they would topple assad or al-qaeda still wouldn't have a big role, but it raises the question. here you have panetta, dempsey, clinton, petraeus the entire national...
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sherrod, if obama is america's dad, according to chris rock, that means bush was our dad too, that means clinton was our dad and nixon was our dad. you just can't pick dads. >> i don't like to talk about raccoons because they killed my parents. >> now i'm in trouble. >> not that one though. >> i understand what chris rock was trying to say, but the president is not my dad, man. dr. huxtable is my dad. >> everyone's dad. >> my feeling was when you were watching him talk, i don't think he agreed with why he was there. he agreed with supporting the president, but i can't believe chris rock doesn't believe in the second amendment. >> he believes that you should have a right to bear arms, but you don't neat an assault rifle that shoots 60 bullets. what deer are you using that on? >> i hear the 60 bullet thing. >> 30 bullets. >> has chris rock been thinking a lot about second amendment and assault ban from -- and the efficacy over the years? >> you don't have to do that. you just need to be an american with an opinion. >> not on my watch. >> there should be a museum for dumb celebrity political commen
sherrod, if obama is america's dad, according to chris rock, that means bush was our dad too, that means clinton was our dad and nixon was our dad. you just can't pick dads. >> i don't like to talk about raccoons because they killed my parents. >> now i'm in trouble. >> not that one though. >> i understand what chris rock was trying to say, but the president is not my dad, man. dr. huxtable is my dad. >> everyone's dad. >> my feeling was when you were...
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. >> if hillary clinton is president? >> she's our mommy. >> she's your mama, eric. >> get me in trouble. >> do you think he would agree that bush was your father? of course not. he just likes obama. >> then he would have had a -- maybe there was like a big he had pus complex going on because he would have hated his father or something like that or his mother or whatever it is. why do they come to washington? people do listen to them. like when we started with mumia, people do want to hear what people that they've watched on television or in movies or that they respect -- the funny thing for me is whenever i hear chris rock, i'm waiting for the punch line. >> that might have been the punch line. >> that's a strange view of the american government. >> trying to get a lower voice. i guess maybe -- i'm all for people testifying in favor of gun control. but i still don't know if -- does anybody got any quantity of information if this converts into anything, like -- >> earned media? he'll be in all the entertainment magazines,
. >> if hillary clinton is president? >> she's our mommy. >> she's your mama, eric. >> get me in trouble. >> do you think he would agree that bush was your father? of course not. he just likes obama. >> then he would have had a -- maybe there was like a big he had pus complex going on because he would have hated his father or something like that or his mother or whatever it is. why do they come to washington? people do listen to them. like when we started...
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>> one thing i can say about secretary clinton. she could not have had a clear eyed understanding of the threats what he face in benghazi, libya if she didn't know of the august 16 memo from ambassador chris stevens saying we can't defend the place against a coordinated terrorist attack and al qaeda flags are flying all over benghazi. her statement that the state department had a clear idea of the threat makes no sense. if we are getting cables from our ambassadors throughout the world, we can't defend consulates, we are in trouble. martha: let's talk about the drone program. i want to ask you about what you think. i know you are supportive of the president's drone program as you were of president bush's take on the war on terror. do you think john brennan will be pressed on this issue and what about the hypocrisy leveled against those who were anti-president bush's war on terror and have no problem with the drone program. >> the hypocrisy is stunning. the drone program to kill high-level al qaeda operatives serves our fashion secu
>> one thing i can say about secretary clinton. she could not have had a clear eyed understanding of the threats what he face in benghazi, libya if she didn't know of the august 16 memo from ambassador chris stevens saying we can't defend the place against a coordinated terrorist attack and al qaeda flags are flying all over benghazi. her statement that the state department had a clear idea of the threat makes no sense. if we are getting cables from our ambassadors throughout the world,...
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and secretary clinton's story makes no sense. she said she had a clear-eyed view of the threats. she didn't know about the august 15 memo from other own ambassador and the secretary of defense did. >> sean: and the president himself was still blaming a youtube video two weeks later. >> yes. >> sean: last question. you're against enhanced interrogation and you and i had a disagreement on that. >> i'm against torture. >> sean: i don't believe the thee people water-boarded were torture, not to digress. >> okay. >> sean: what about the president bombing people, killing them with drone attacks? >> i think he should have enhanced interrogation techniques that are classified and i think we should kill all the terrorists or capture the terrorists we can find. i'm okay with the drones, but he won't use gitmo, we've captured one person, sean, in four years and hard to interrogate a dead man. so this president has closed gitmo and we're a nation without a jail and this is going to come back to haunt us and more benghazis coming, this commander of chief is disengaged, doesn't understand the
and secretary clinton's story makes no sense. she said she had a clear-eyed view of the threats. she didn't know about the august 15 memo from other own ambassador and the secretary of defense did. >> sean: and the president himself was still blaming a youtube video two weeks later. >> yes. >> sean: last question. you're against enhanced interrogation and you and i had a disagreement on that. >> i'm against torture. >> sean: i don't believe the thee people...
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but it really falls on the state department and that's why hillary clinton said she was responsible, heree leon panetta has not said he's responsible. and as jennifer griffin was saying, democrats are talking about the pending budget cuts, they are not that you canning about benghazi there this hearing. jon: so now you've got a new secretary of state already in place, john kerry is there. you've got probably a new secretary of defense coming in, i just wonder if some of these questions are ever going to get answered or will there be the opportunity for testimony via document or something? >> you know i think with the new team coming in they'll say, listen that was hillary clinton's reign, they are going to try to look forward. i just don't think there is going to be a lot more oversight of this. i don't see it even on the house side where republicans control the lower chamber that there are no scheduled hearings continuing on this. certainly hillary clinton is done testifying, she is out of the state department, and john kerry is not -- he doesn't want to testify on this. jon: that s
but it really falls on the state department and that's why hillary clinton said she was responsible, heree leon panetta has not said he's responsible. and as jennifer griffin was saying, democrats are talking about the pending budget cuts, they are not that you canning about benghazi there this hearing. jon: so now you've got a new secretary of state already in place, john kerry is there. you've got probably a new secretary of defense coming in, i just wonder if some of these questions are ever...
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. >> a lot of people on television he talks about politics, hillary clinton, and george w. bush. he talks about a lot of pop culture, shep. and more importantly, he names the people on the los angeles police department, 40 names in all and none of them are being made public. everybody in the manifesto is now getting extra protection. in fact, one of the police officers who was shot and wounded today was actually protecting a target named in that manifesto. dorner says he wants the police and their families killed saying, again, quoting here: suppressing the truth will lead to deadly consequences for you and your family. there will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. dr. keith ablow says he is apparently lost his empathy. listen. >> he is now devoid of that and so he is like a run away train. he is capable in a terrible way of inflicting awful suffering and feeling nothing because he has severed himself from his feelings. >> i just want to mention this they are still searching snow tracks in the big bear mountains, shep. the sun sets in about 40 minutes
. >> a lot of people on television he talks about politics, hillary clinton, and george w. bush. he talks about a lot of pop culture, shep. and more importantly, he names the people on the los angeles police department, 40 names in all and none of them are being made public. everybody in the manifesto is now getting extra protection. in fact, one of the police officers who was shot and wounded today was actually protecting a target named in that manifesto. dorner says he wants the police...
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some people would say in new york, that's why hillary clinton was voted into the senate. we've seen people in washington, sonny bono, gopher on the love boat and people love celebrity and name recogniti recognition, and there are people in kentucky not of the mind of mitch mcconnell. why is he worried, a, she hasn't announced she was running and b, i thought he was secure in his-- >> i don't know what karl will have to say about it and we should note at that ashley judd is not chris rock and tony bennett. she went to the kentucky school of government my alma mater, i almost flunked out i heard that she did well. so she's very smart, but she doesn't mix it up and won't come on the program and trying to have her on for years and she simply won't do it and i think that the strategy is, look, this woman's going to be able to get a lot of money, all right, because she's a celebrity. >> right. >> so the guys out in hollywood writing her checks and we want to kind of define her now before she gets any momentum, a small deal for rove and his crew, right? >> yes, a very smart stra
some people would say in new york, that's why hillary clinton was voted into the senate. we've seen people in washington, sonny bono, gopher on the love boat and people love celebrity and name recogniti recognition, and there are people in kentucky not of the mind of mitch mcconnell. why is he worried, a, she hasn't announced she was running and b, i thought he was secure in his-- >> i don't know what karl will have to say about it and we should note at that ashley judd is not chris rock...
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where was secretary clinton? she didn't know about the 9/11 cables coming in from ambassador stevens? now she we find out she wasn't even talking to her colleagues. this is more than just a lack of coordination. this is a lack of leadership. and it's no wonder secretary panetta didn't know what leadership was or who was in charge. rick: byron, so the president was initially briefed according to secretary panetta's testimony yesterday. and then a long time passed before he got any updates. but, general dempsey said that the president's national security staff was being constantly updated. so top staff members were in the loop throughout the whole thing. good enough? >> probably not. i think up until yesterday this benghazi story had been about hillary clinton, about susan rice, about the state department. yesterday it became about president obama. and the question was, where was he, after having a prescheduled meeting in the afternoon on that day, secretary panetta spoke to him no more. i think what became clear w
where was secretary clinton? she didn't know about the 9/11 cables coming in from ambassador stevens? now she we find out she wasn't even talking to her colleagues. this is more than just a lack of coordination. this is a lack of leadership. and it's no wonder secretary panetta didn't know what leadership was or who was in charge. rick: byron, so the president was initially briefed according to secretary panetta's testimony yesterday. and then a long time passed before he got any updates. but,...
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>> was secretary clinton in charge? >> people that were in charge were the ambassador there. (talking over one another) >> they were trying to save their lives. they weren't in charge. >> panetta also suspended the slow response saying there wasn't enough time or warning to try and prevent the murder of four americans. >> catholic bishop rejecting the latest plans to alter the contraception mandate. it doesn't offer enough religious attention. we have been assured by the administration we will not have to refer, pay for, negotiate for the mandate in coverage. we remain eager for the administration to fulfill that pledge. many business owners have objected to the mandate saying it forces them to violate their religious beliefs or pay hefty fines. >> more legal trouble for lance armstrong a dallas based company is suing the disgraced cyclist for the more than 12 million he was given for winning the tour defrance. when doping allegations first surfaced armstrong won a legal battle when he lied under oath saying he never doped. armstrong's attorney says the ruling was final and t
>> was secretary clinton in charge? >> people that were in charge were the ambassador there. (talking over one another) >> they were trying to save their lives. they weren't in charge. >> panetta also suspended the slow response saying there wasn't enough time or warning to try and prevent the murder of four americans. >> catholic bishop rejecting the latest plans to alter the contraception mandate. it doesn't offer enough religious attention. we have been assured...
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about with simon rosenburg and the founder of new democrat network and former advisor to president clinton's campaign and mort is a fellow at american enterprise institute and former speech writer for president george w. bush. gentlemen, we have a lot to get through. mark, let me start with you. in order of importance, how do you think that the lawmakers are going to address things, are they most interested in a drone strike, or getting answers about benghazi, which brennan has never addressed or what's going to happen here? >> well, i think that john brennan is hoping they spend a lot of times on drums, this is one -- on the drones. 83% of americans support the drone strikes and when you say drone strikes against american citizens against al-qaeda, support is 65% of americans and 55% of self-described liberal democrats. if there's ever been consensus on an issue i think that one is it. it makes perfect sense. look, i don't understand the arguments of the people understanding saying you can't kill americans who join al-qaeda with drones. we are at war, the enemy is al-qaeda so any american w
about with simon rosenburg and the founder of new democrat network and former advisor to president clinton's campaign and mort is a fellow at american enterprise institute and former speech writer for president george w. bush. gentlemen, we have a lot to get through. mark, let me start with you. in order of importance, how do you think that the lawmakers are going to address things, are they most interested in a drone strike, or getting answers about benghazi, which brennan has never addressed...
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hillary clinton didn't read the memos. that's how people delegate sometimes. she didn't read it she didn't know it she wasn't paying attention to it. panetta didn't know. he is department of defense. he is not paying attention to that. all right. dempsey didn't know. is he not paying attention to that it all goes down, okay. and the bottom line is the state department didn't protect their guy. it's their fault and that's that. bill. the thing about this though is panetta and dempsey and they said well, we didn't have the time to deploy the aircraft. >> bill: they didn't. >> graham pushed them on it and mccain pushed them on it and i think at the end of all of this, we think about all all of this went down, it was 9/11. they said there were 300 threats around the world. >> bill: yep. this wasn't any old outpost. this was a place where the british had pulled out. we had seen major incursions in that area. we had the front of the gate blown out already on that compound earlier in the year. so they had lots of warning science. >> bill: they were watching in egypt
hillary clinton didn't read the memos. that's how people delegate sometimes. she didn't read it she didn't know it she wasn't paying attention to it. panetta didn't know. he is department of defense. he is not paying attention to that. all right. dempsey didn't know. is he not paying attention to that it all goes down, okay. and the bottom line is the state department didn't protect their guy. it's their fault and that's that. bill. the thing about this though is panetta and dempsey and they...
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you remember how nixon helped out everyone, from clinton to ford. this would be a great opportunity for president obama at some point, maybe even on tuesday, to say, a lot of the policies i was critical of as a senator, now that i'm in that seat, i can support and my respect goes out to george bush that. would go a long way to getting something done in washington. am i dreaming? >> yeah. this guy has never actually taken the olive branch and used it the way it should be. he wields it like a club and i don't think we'll have that moment. you're right, brian. this would be a time to say, you know what? i inherited these policies from bush and i'm actually glad. that's not going to happen. >> steve: he's adopted so many of george w. bush's policies, ironically, things he ran against and now he supports them. listen, let's talk a little bit about gun control. there was a rally recently and a very famous comedian was there and chris rock said this. >> president of the united states is, you know, our boss. he's also, you know, the president and the first
you remember how nixon helped out everyone, from clinton to ford. this would be a great opportunity for president obama at some point, maybe even on tuesday, to say, a lot of the policies i was critical of as a senator, now that i'm in that seat, i can support and my respect goes out to george bush that. would go a long way to getting something done in washington. am i dreaming? >> yeah. this guy has never actually taken the olive branch and used it the way it should be. he wields it like...
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secretary of -- secretary clinton has gone away a little bit but the benghazi controversy not going away at all. >> there was a remarkable exchange between senator lindsay graham and leon panetta on the question of what happened after benghazi. >> we talked to him for 30 minutes one time. and you never talked to him again? either one of you. >> until afterwards. >> until after the attack was over. >> that's right. >> are you surprised the president of the united states never called you and said how's it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me finish the answer. we -- we were deploying the forces. he knew we were deploying the forces. he was kept -- >> i hate to interrupt you but i got limited time. we didn't deploy forces. my question is during that eight hour period, did the president show any curiosity about how is this going? what kind of assets do you have? did he ever make that phone call? >> look, there's no question in my mind the president of the united states was concerned about american lives. >> with all due respect i d
secretary of -- secretary clinton has gone away a little bit but the benghazi controversy not going away at all. >> there was a remarkable exchange between senator lindsay graham and leon panetta on the question of what happened after benghazi. >> we talked to him for 30 minutes one time. and you never talked to him again? either one of you. >> until afterwards. >> until after the attack was over. >> that's right. >> are you surprised the president of the...
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. >> brian: the "washington post" lead editorial today says hillary clinton and david petraeus, running the c.i.a. identified the group that they believe would have been the preferrable group to take over through all the rebels, they weeded through and had a plan. and the president nixed it. the word is too political. they wanted to make it seem we're not on a war footing with the election a month away. >> gretchen: maybe the election playing a huge role. let's look at the fox news polls right now. recently conducted, how many people feel our country compared to five years ago? nearly half of those polled say america is weaker and less powerful today. that's 48%. 24% believe that the country is stronger and more powerful. 27% say nothing changed. >> steve: that's kind of gloomy. you know, the president told john boehner during the negotiations, washington doesn't have a spending problem. health care cost too much. so we asked you. president obama says government doesn't have a spending problem. do you think it does? 83% of you say yes. the government does have a spending problem. only 1
. >> brian: the "washington post" lead editorial today says hillary clinton and david petraeus, running the c.i.a. identified the group that they believe would have been the preferrable group to take over through all the rebels, they weeded through and had a plan. and the president nixed it. the word is too political. they wanted to make it seem we're not on a war footing with the election a month away. >> gretchen: maybe the election playing a huge role. let's look at the...
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>>steve: hillary clinton, wait till you see her now. she looks like the picture of presidential ambition. we'll show you the new pike ♪ [ male announcer ] pain not sitting too well? burning to feel better? itching for relief? preparation h offers the most maximum strength solutions for all hemorrhoid symptoms. from the brand doctors recommend most. preparation h. don't stand for hemorrhoids. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>gretchen: 23 minutes after the top of the hour. if you're just waking up, quick headlines. the american pastor sentenced to eight years in iran's most notorious prison, since the u.s. isn't doing enough to free him. he has been locked up since august for refusing to renounce his christian faith. is this the faith of presidential ambition? d
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